What is better? An Ayahuasca ceremony or a mushroom trip session?

Similar tryptamines

There are many types of tryptamines, such as tryptophan, serotonin, and melatonin. The important tryptamines in this story are dimethyltryptamine (DMT), 4-hydroxytryptamine (psilocin), O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxydimethyltryptamine (psilocybin) and 5-hydroxytryptamine (serotonine). DMT is de tryptamine die in de ayahuasca drank zorgt voor de trip en bij paddo's is dat de stof psilocybine die door maagzuur en de lever omgezet wordt naar de werkzame stof psilocine. Zowel DMT als psilocine lijken heel erg veel op serotonine.

Read our message about serotonin Go through it thoroughly to fully understand the whole thing.

How is ayahuasca absorbed?

DMT, the active ingredient in ayahuasca, is also naturally produced in the human pineal gland. DMT is primarily released when sleep sets in. DMT can make dreams vivid. If DMT is consumed, for example by making a tea from plants containing it, DMT is immediately broken down in the stomach acid by an enzyme called monoamine oxidase (MAO). If DMT is taken together with MAO inhibitors, which ayahuasca is, DMT is not broken down and does reach the brain, subsequently leading to a trip.

Hoe worden paddo's opgenomen?

Paddo's en magic truffels hebben dezelfde werkzame stoffen, namelijk psilocybine en psilocine. Er zijn honderden schimmels die psilocybine aanmaken, maar de mens maakt deze stof niet zelf aan. Bij het eten van psilocybine houdende truffels of paddenstoelen zal het maagzuur en de lever de psilocybine omzetten naar psilocine. Psilocine kan dan richting het brein waar het zijn werking geeft.

What do DMT and psilocin do in the brain?

Both DMT and psilocin closely resemble serotonin in terms of molecular structure and can stimulate the serotonin receptor in the brain upon ingestion. This is in addition to the current stimulation of serotonin. Partly due to this, most complaints, such as depression and addictions, which arise from a potential serotonin deficiency, will disappear immediately (and temporarily).

Due to increased stimulation of serotonin receptors, the brain enters a state of hyperconnectivity. This means that various brain regions connect with each other to transmit and process information. This is comparable to how information is processed and stored during sleep and dreaming. During a state of hyperconnectivity, the brain can continuously create new connections. Bad connections are repaired, particularly those in the frontal lobe. Bad connections in the frontal lobe can be both the cause and the consequence of depression. By repairing these connections, DMT and psilocin can help combat depression.

The ayahuasca trip

The mixture of DMT and MAO inhibitors often causes physical effects such as diarrhea and vomiting. Only when this is over can the trip truly begin. Ayahuasca is typically experienced as a dream with deep meaning while awake. This is due to DMT, which is also released during sleep. Ayahuasca can bring your 'subconscious' to the surface. One can see and experience things that have been suppressed, either consciously or unconsciously. Old emotions, trauma, and behavioral patterns can surface. An ayahuasca trip typically lasts 2 to 6 hours, and it is difficult to predict how deep and how long the trip will be. For instance, a trip can cause after-effects for up to 8 hours.

The mushroom trip

The mushroom trip does not have adverse physical effects. One may, however, feel shaky and hot or cold at the beginning. The trip usually sets in after half an hour, and initially, you will be relieved of everything you think you need. You will first enter a state of contentment. This is due to psilocin, which stimulates the serotonin receptor. As soon as the trip really gets going, during a deep trip, your 'subconscious' can also be brought to the surface. One can see and experience things that have been suppressed, either consciously or unconsciously. The length of a mushroom trip can range from 2 to 8 hours and can be controlled via the dosage and the addition of (citric) acid.

Difference between mushroom trips and ayahuasca trips

MAO inhibitors

Het belangrijkste verschil is dat er bij paddo's geen MAO remmers nodig zijn. Juist de MAO remmers zorgen voor lichamelijk ongemak en kunnen complicaties geven. Bepaalde medicijnen en voeding kunnen in combinatie met de MAO remmers in ayahuasca de gebruiker ziek maken of in extreme gevallen de dood veroorzaken.

Choose Triplevel

It is wise not to reach the highest trip level immediately on a first trip. With mushroom trips, you can start with a lower trip level so that you are at ease next time. With ayahuasca ceremonies, there isn't really an easy dosage possible.

Physical discomfort

Bij ayahuasca komt overgeven en diarree bijna altijd voor aan het begin. Bij truffels en paddo's komt diarree niet voor en overgeven komt zeer beperkt voor, wat tevens makkelijk te voorkomen is. Tijdens een paddo- of truffeltrip kunt u wel gewoon bewegen, wat bij ayahuasca niet of niet gemakkelijk gaat.

Adjust trip

While one can partially control oneself during a light mushroom trip, an ayahuasca trip cannot be controlled at all. This can be both an advantage and a disadvantage. Even during a deep truffle/mushroom trip (up to level 4), slight guidance is possible through a coach. If you are a control freak, ayahuasca can be too intense.

Legislation in the Netherlands

Het bezit en verhandelen van DMT en ayahuasca is in heel veel landen illegaal, waaronder Nederland. Ayahuasca ceremonies zijn helaas ook illegaal in Nederland. Ook het bezit en handelen in psilocybine houdende paddenstoelen is illegaal. Magic truffels daarentegen, met dezelfde werkzame stoffen als paddo's zijn wel legaal in Nederland. Een triptherapie met magic truffels is dus wel legaal.

Guidance during the trip

Ayahuasca ceremonies typically take place in groups. Our trip therapy is one-on-one. This way, you receive the full attention of our coach during our therapy.

Price

Ayahuasca ceremonies are often more expensive because the organization surrounding them is much more extensive. Usually, you have to travel somewhere and stay overnight with several fellow travelers. With our trip therapy, you can simply stay in your own environment, so the costs for accommodation do not need to be incurred.

Duration of the trip

The ayahuasca trip is difficult to predict. It is best to expect that you will not be able to do anything else for 14 hours. A truffle or mushroom trip can be dosed better, and with a less deep trip, you can resume other activities after just 3 hours. With deeper trips, this can be as early as 6 hours. In the case of the deepest trip, you can resume other activities after 8 hours.

The triple levels

Met ayahuasca gaat u doorgaan redelijk vlot naar triplevel 5, wat gezien kan worden als voor- en nadeel. Met paddo's kan er beter gedoseerd worden. Het behalen van een triplevel kan een tripcoach beter inschatten.

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Psilocybin preference Johns Hopkins School of Medicine

The Johns Hopkins School of Medicine is currently conducting research primarily with psilocybin/psilocin instead of DMT (ayahuasca). We believe they prefer the active ingredients from mushrooms because they work slightly differently and with less risk.

Our preference

Hoewel wij totaal niet tegen ayahuasca zijn, geniet de paddotrip/truffeltrip onze voorkeur. Dit vanwege dezelfde voordelen als ayahuasca, de wetgeving, het makkelijkere gebruik, dosering en sturing van een tripsessie, welke gewoon bij u thuis kan plaatsvinden. Wat een heel groot pluspunt aan paddo's is, is dat er geen MAO remmers nodig zijn en dat betekend dat er geen complicaties kunnen ontstaan door de MAO remmers.

Your preference

Your preference naturally depends on your circumstances. However, if you are of the opinion that ayahuasca is better for you, please read up very carefully on what you should and should not do. Ensure that you read information from multiple sources on this subject. Choose a skilled shaman with whom you feel comfortable and where the setting is right, just as was done during the ayahuasca rituals in the Amazon regions. Do you, like us, see the benefits of the mushroom trip? We are happy to help you.

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