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[Solved] Ayahuasca ceremony or magic mushrooms with a therapist?

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Some friends recommend that I go to an ayahuasca ceremony. Apparently, it helped with their problems. I would do it to feel a bit less down. I have been suffering from this for a very long time. What is the sensible thing to do?


Marcel
6 February 2019 23:29

Hi Joost,

It is a positive sign that you want to change something about your low mood. The first step is diet and exercise. That is the foundation for health and a cure for depression. If you still have symptoms after that, trip therapy can help. For depression, psilocybin from magic mushrooms works better than DMT from ayahuasca. If you want to know what the differences are, take a look here: DMT vs psilocybin

Good luck, and if you want to know more, feel free to ask!


Topic starter
7 February 2019 11:37

Thanks for the quick reply! I am indeed going to tighten up my diet, although I already eat very healthily due to my sports fanaticism. I get enough exercise, by the way.


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There is preliminary scientific evidence that ayahuasca can have antidepressant and therapeutic effects:

πŸ“Œ Research into depression

  • A clinical study (Palhano-Fontes et al., 2019) showed that one ayahuasca session significantly reduced depressive symptoms, even in people who did not respond to regular antidepressants.
  • The effects were quickly noticeable (within a day) and lasted for weeks to months in some participants.

πŸ“Œ Research into PTSD and trauma

  • Ayahuasca seems to default mode network (DMN) to reduce the brain area that is overactive in people with PTSD and depression (Carhart-Harris et al., 2014).
  • It helps people to to process stuck emotions and traumas, which can contribute to emotional recovery.

πŸ“Œ Anecdotal evidence
Many people report that after an ayahuasca ceremony more emotional clarity, less anxiety and a deep sense of connection experienced. Some feel "liberated" after one session, while others need multiple sessions.

Possible risks and disadvantages

Ayahuasca is no miracle cure and can also very challenging and intense are. It is important to understand the risks:

⚠️ Emotionally heavy – Traumas or suppressed emotions can surface overwhelmingly. This can be healing, but it can also temporarily worsen the situation.
⚠️ Not suitable for certain mental disorders – People with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or psychosis susceptibility run an increased risk of negative effects.
⚠️ Physical risks – The MAO inhibitors in ayahuasca can be dangerous in combination with certain medications, especially antidepressants (SSRIs).
⚠️ Not always professional guidance – Many ceremonies are led by shamans or facilitators, but not all of them have medical or psychological training.
⚠️ Illegal – Ayuasca may not be used in the Netherlands.

What is sensible?

If you are considering trying ayahuasca, ask yourself the following questions:

βœ”οΈ Have I tried everything within conventional therapy? Ayahuasca is powerful, but not a first step. Therapy, mindfulness, body-oriented treatments, or other psychedelics (such as psilocybin) may be less intensive alternatives.

βœ”οΈ Am I mentally prepared for an intense experience? An ayahuasca session can be deeply confronting. It is important that you is open to the process, without expectations of a 'quick fix''.

βœ”οΈ Is the ceremony safe and professionally conducted? Make sure you go to a respected and safe place goes, preferably with experienced facilitators and integration support afterwards.

βœ”οΈ Am I free from medication that could have interactions? If you take antidepressants or other medicines, you have to be very careful with this. Some medications need to be tapered off weeks in advance. Always consult a specialist!

Alternatives you can consider

πŸ’‘ Psilocybin (truffles or magic mushrooms) – psilocybin It works similarly, but is less intense and better researched for depression.
πŸ’‘ MDMA therapy – Promising for trauma and emotional processing (Already possible in the Netherlands with a legal analogue of MDMA).
πŸ’‘ Somatic therapy (TRE, EMDR, bodywork) – Can help with trauma and stuck emotions without psychedelics.

Conclusion: is it wise?

Ayahuasca can help with depression and trauma, but it is not a magic solution and involves risks. It can be valuable if you well prepared are, choose a safe setting, and are psychologically stable enough to handle the intensity. Also consider less intense alternatives such as psilocybin or body-oriented therapy.


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It is understandable that you are considering doing an ayahuasca ceremony or a magic mushroom session, especially if your friends have shared positive experiences. Both options have their own unique benefits and can help provide insight into personal and emotional issues.

Ayahuasca is often not the best choice for a first psychedelic session, especially if there has been a lot of trauma. psilocybin session with a therapist Seems like a better choice to us if you had to choose between these two.


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If you remain depressed, we can use the trip sessions to determine if there is something in the subconscious causing you stress. This can, after all, also be a cause of depression.


Topic starter
7 February 2019 17:34

I think I want to do that mushroom trip anyway. I've watched videos on YouTube and I think it could really help me. I'm thinking about it and will let you know. By the way, are you also coming to Alkmaar for trip therapy?


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Yes, Alkmaar is definitely doable.


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Why choose? Both are beautiful, but ayahuasca is a bit coarser and you have to watch what you eat beforehand. For beginners, I would recommend truffles.Β